The Driver Success Podcast Interview With Charles Brownell


Moses: Hi everyone it's Moses here with a driver success podcasts and I am excited today to be having another guest that we are going to have a conversation with, our guess is somebody that I found on LinkedIn reach out to him ask him if he would be willing to come share his story and have a conversation with us, and he was gracious enough to agree so today we have Charles on the line. Charles welcome to welcome to Driver Success podcast.

Charles: Thank you for having me.

Moses: So let's begin with your personal life just share with us about yourself and nothing to do with trucking just your personal life so that we get to know you on a personal level.

Charles: Well basically I was born in Oregon but I grew up in Southern California and pretty much been there for a good part of 27 something actually going on 30 something years. Other than that I pretty much grew up there when to Etiwanda High School, and then from there I did going to the military so I spent about 3 years in the military serving my country as I am a patriot of my country and basically I go up serving my fellow countrymen as my family.

So essentially a greater part of my life is I've just been devoted serving my fellow citizens in one way or another either through military or through I've done [unclear 2:47] when I w as in youth group growing up in high school to Rainbow Acres and a couple of other places throughout the community to help those in need.

I know you mentioned anything other than the trucking but even I consider the trucking as my way of serving my fellow Americans by helping ship all the necessary goods so that they can go to the stores and have that stuff available to them. So essentially growing up I have been trying to grow up in the way that just trying to find the way to serve my fellow citizens.

Moses: Thank you so much for your service to the country we really appreciate the sacrifice people like you make to make sure we have a peaceful country thank you so much for that.

Charles: It is my honor and privilege to do this for my fellow people.

Moses: Thank you are you married?

Charles: Yes, I am married with 3 beautiful little ones also running around with their oldest at 6 and then 4 and 2.

Moses: 6, 4 and 2 boys’ girl’s mixture?

Charles: 2 girls and 1 boy the two oldest are the girls the youngest is a boy.

Moses: So he gets all the love that's good. So when were you in the military when exactly?

Charles: I was in the military I join 2001 I separated in 2004 I join the Navy specifically, and then within those 3 years I actually did two deployments, one into the Mediterranean and one in it's still kind of in the state but I went down to Jacksonville where we basically help fellows [unclear] to conduct various missions throughout the world.

Moses: And what did you do before the military?

Charles: Well before the military, I was in high school.

Moses: So from school you went straight into the military?

Charles: Yes.

Moses: Okay and so when you left the military in 2004 what did you do?

Charles: When I left I ended up getting a job with a local school bus, school district driving school buses at least only because I needed something to kind of get me to some financial stability.

But then in 2005, that's when I started researching about getting my Class A license and that's where I went with Sierra England to get my Class A license because up on getting my Class A I would also have a job driving for them. And I figured at that moment and time I figured that was a good setup, and that's where I ended pursuing the whole career of driving trucks.

Moses: Is this something you had thought out as a young kid is it something that you just stumble upon, how did you choose looking into Trucking?

Charles: Believe it or not trucking was a very strong passion of mine ever since as far back as I can remember, yes it's been a very strong passion I've always been in the truck. Even I guess 5 years old as far as the earliest as I can remember being interested in trucks.

And I even had I lived in Central Fontana well at time Central Fontana over by West Bindle Elementary School and I had a neighbor who became a great friend for many years, and her dad was a truck driver. And he drove locally he was his own entity so is an independent carrier he has his own authority and everything. And he drove flatbed he had a warehouse well he had building supplies, and you would actually quite often take me on several of his runs to like Bakersfield I mean he stayed local.

Moses: And old were you at that time 5 years?

Charles: Roughly 5 years or 6 years, for several years he would take me onto the truck with him and it really just filled my passion with trucks and it's just a great deal of passion for me. One thing I am happy about is being able to talk with you and with the listeners is to help them for those that may not necessary understand how it works, to me it's more than just a job that you just stumbled upon and drive.

And sure it's great that people will get into it and like it and work it, but to me it's also a passion just like when someone does sales for a passion or whatever their passion may be for me it's this is to being able to take time and sacrifice to make sure that I am delivering all the necessary materials and goods to all the manufacturers and distributing the goods to the stores and stuff so that in the end my fellow citizens can drive Walmart because they need batteries or can drive to the Chevy dealership because they want to buy that new car, or they want to drive to wherever because they want to buy a new house or whatever.

And everything that we have comes from trucks it's the lifeblood of America, and just like if you were to stop your own blood flow in your own body your body wouldn't be able to survive it would actually die off. And in the same way that's how America is us as truck drivers even yeah we're big we may be slow we may take a lot of space we may not be as far as these cars and sometimes [unclear 10:20] not act appropriately but you know in the end the vast majority of us do it for the sake of the fact of being able to provide for our fellow citizens so that they don't have to walk all the way to Detroit to pick up a car and then have to drive all the way to Houston to get their gasoline it's an honour to be able to just bring it to them instead where they can have that convenient, so just going into the store and get what they need right there available to them.

Moses: I really love your heart servanthood because you're mine frame you look at this as mission that you have a service that you are doing you are not just thinking of it as a job but you are thinking of it as a mission as serving others that is really something I appreciate and thank you for having such a heart and hopefully others can learn from that and look at this job as something that is a mission that we serve, we don't just complain about the challenges but we also delight ourselves in the service that we are doing. So when you decided you wanted to go to school what made you choose Sierra England is it because it was close by did somebody kind of point you to Sierra England?

Charles: Honestly I think the way I ended up with Sierra England was because they were one that did not require a contract some of them require a contract where once permit finish you had to be with them for a certain time. And I really didn't want to deal with contract I wanted to just be able to get my license and then if I'd like it I would stick with it if I didn't like it I had the freedom to decide you know what I'm going to stick it out for just long enough to get my experience up and then start looking for another company that I can kind of move to and feel and more comfortable with.

So as for the reason for Sierra England because at the time even Werner Enterprises was requiring one year of experience so I'd figured that was out of the question. And really I guess Sierra England was the one that appeals to me and the fact that they would be able to get me driving and teach me how the drive and basically get me going in a reasonable amount of time.

And even providing me with a job and made it be upon completion of the school, and to me that was the biggest appeal just being able to just get to write to driving and start working building up my employment history and even building up my experience so that even though I won't necessarily stay with them forever but it would at least be that first that would help get me into the whole industry to begin of my journey down this path.

Moses: Now which year was this?

Charles: 2005.

Moses: So you went to school in 2005 right?

Charles: Yes, essentially when I got the bus driving job I immediately started looking for go to get my Class A license and start driving semi-trucks.

Moses: Okay so it was a company-sponsored training you didn't have to pay them any money they trained you but they didn't require a contract?

Charles: They didn't require a contract but I did still have to pay for the license which cost me about $3,000.

Moses: Now was this out of your pocket right away or was it something that you paid monthly after school?

Charles: No after school they set up a payment plan it actually paid weekly it's broken down to a weekly payment it was it was paid back to them. It took a course of about 22 weeks or so to pay them back the full amount and then I figured once I finish paying them off then by that time I would have been able to have enough time in to determine is this a good company, not it's necessarily a bad company they were a pretty good company but maybe I could find a company with a little better pay, or maybe I needed the stick around an extra 6 months to really have my options open to determine where I can go or if I wanted to go anywhere.

They also have lease options which I kind of looked at but wasn't really too interested because buying a truck first of all I wanted at least 3 years of experience before I even thought about my truck just because I want to be able to even get to know how to even drive the truck you've got to learn how to run one. You know to run one it's literally like a business that's basically what it is it's a business.

And so just like any other business I mean you got your revenues you got your expensive I mean you got the whole [unclear 16:35] but you still got to do it the only difference is your office is rolling around with you. And learning from my friend who was his own entity the one thing I learned is for of all give yourself some experience and then don't rush into it you got to look at all the different parts of it before you can really dive into it, it's not as simple as getting the truck and driving I mean most people think it's like company driver.

But you miss the administration side of it. You miss looking at what the company does as an administration as far as to making sure this truck is running and it has a load inside it's trailer each time. And the part a lot of people miss and that's why I believe that a lot of people that do go on a [unclear 17:37 they end up falling out because they don't look at that they just rush in oh I should be able to do this they should be nice and easy, but in reality it's not any easier than someone running hair salon or running a grocery store you still got the same concept of revenue versus expensive and you got to know how to balance it so that you can have a profit and stay business and be however big you want to be, if you want to grow to be like one of these major company and have multiple choice under you and if you just want to stay in your own truck and just roll around and make lots of money to put in your pocket either one you have that choice.

Moses: So take us back into 2005 you going to school, what was your experience with Sierra England School how was the school itself and the training you went through?

Charles: It was actually really good believe it or not the instructors both in the classroom and the and behind the wheels was actually very interactive they are very informational in regards to making sure that you understood how it works to deal with the whole industry, everything from [unclear 19:03] to dealing with the customers to taking up and receiving, I mean I can go on forever with the list of what they do.

Moses: Now was this done before that you go out with that driver just the school itself?

Charles: Yes, the school itself you start with 4 weeks in the classroom I forget how it is. But you start in the classroom you do a term in the classroom learning all the book stuff, and then you go out with the truck and you learn how to protect the truck how to manoeuvre the truck and then how to drive it in the midst of traffic.

And then once you've done with that you go with the actual trainer where you go out and actually do the real thing with him and they would evaluate you based on how well you are doing and determine well if this guy needs additional training he is getting it but he is just not quite there yet or he is doing exceptionally well and when his six weeks is up he will be ready to go on the truck and start driving on his own. And I think they did a very good job with that I had a very good trainer.

So the fact that they try to [unclear 20:30] their trainers so that the trainers are actually one on one with the students it is right on as far as I am concerned.

Moses: So you say how long was the school itself 4 weeks?

Charles: Well the whole thing was 6 weeks before I went on with the trainer.

Moses: So 6 weeks before the school and then 6 weeks for the trainer?

Charles: Yes, so it took me a total of 12 weeks before I officially got into my own truck.

Moses: So how was your very first solo drive after you leave that trainer and you are by yourself how was that?

Charles: It was actually pretty exciting but at the same time touching a little bit to getting used to because I mean you are going from your typical 4-wheel car driving maybe 20 miles around town and kind of staying around town to this big massive 80000-pound vehicle that you sit eight feet above the ground and thing can go just as fast as a car but doesn't stop as fast as a car.

And it takes a lot of space to maneuver around stuff and then on top of that daily basis driving approximately 5 to 7 maybe even seven hundred miles depending on how far you've decided to run each day. And it takes a little getting used to at first because I wasn't used to driving 10 hours, but actually, I did get accustomed to it pretty quickly.

Moses: Do you remember your first run where you are coming from and where you are going and the time that they had given you to make that first delivery by yourself?

Charles: Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact run that I did but I was with the 48 states and then it wasn't until 2006 when I run for Warner that I decide to get I felt like I was very comfortable with it to where I decide you know what I want to go ahead and expanded out into Canada.

And so one day my dispatcher said ask me if I have a passport I said yes, and he asked me if I wanted to go into Canada I said yes. And so there I became the running boy going back and forth into Canada to pick up loads into Canada and bring them down and swap them out with drivers that would take them the rest of the way to where there are going whether to Canada or whatever.

And I actually enjoyed it because to me it's pretty fascinating over the fact that I felt like had not necessarily I [unclear 23:38] run as the same route every day, but I like you know I am feeling pretty important because they are relying on me to going to Canada pick up loads that are available here and bring them down and hand then off to the guys in the 48 states where they can then take it from there take it wherever it's got to go, and then just go back and forth I mean I was making still pretty good money.

Moses: This was with Warner?

Charles: Yes, this was with Warner Enterprises.

Moses: Now how far into Canada would you go?

Charles: I would go all the way up to Edmonton typically they kept me in I think Alberta province just because if you look at Canada there's only four major cities I mean you got Calgary Edmonton and then Ottawa and Ontario over on the other side. So, for the most part, they get me on the west side with Edmonton and Calgary just kind of going back and forth between the two as far as picking up loads and then I would bring them down into Montana and then I would meet with a guy in either Ottawa or Montana and essentially swap out trailers.

I would give him the load that are going to like Kansas or something, and then he will give me a loan that is the delivered in Edmonton [unclear 25:21] where I deliver [unclear] of fiberglass to somewhere up in Edmonton, and then from there I will go to the shipper there in Canada and pick up a load and basically do it again I was just keep going back and forth it was like I was running boy, but I didn't mind I actually enjoyed it.

Moses: Are there any major differences that stood out to you between trucking here in the US and in Canada?

Charles: Not really I mean for the most part it's the same the only difference is they use the metric system rather than the standard, so here we use like miles per hour but up there it's like kilometers per hour. But in the end it really turns out to really be the same so it's not much different it's just you don't have nearly as many major cities as you would in California not California in the United States where you know you have Seattle and then Portland and so on these guys had a lot of open space.

They are quite a few truck stops but they weren't as necessarily as extravagant like you would see maybe it's [unclear 26:51] they are often in the 10 where there are massive and huge and all kind of manatees for the trucks. Where in Canada their truck stops wouldn't necessarily be like that they would kind of basically be kind of a parking lot within a few islands and then a building with maybe one or two restaurants in it and that's pretty much about it really.

But really to me, that's the main difference between the two I mean Canada was a lot more open and flat so it's really just the environment the only thing that I found different as far as the whole operation of trucking pretty much the same in the United States.

Moses: So let's talk about the money in 2005 you start out, you're very first year did you make the money you expected to make, were you a little disappointed the very first year tell us your experience with your income?

Charles: The first year I made about what I expected I didn't expect to make a whole lot on the first year I was a new guy I mean it's just like any other industry, you don't always start at the top you don't I always started necessarily the best pay there. I started there with maybe I was thinking home maybe between 200 to $400 a week, and considering what had which was virtually no bills of whatsoever and all I had to worry about was basically eating stuff and kind of getting the experience.

For me it wasn't a disappointment I mean of course I looked at it like you know I would like to have more paying since I ended up moving over in 2006 to Warner Enterprises because they had a little bit better pay but as far as being disappointed actually I wasn't but it was kind of more or less what I expected especially for a beginner, and obviously I didn't expect to make lots of money by the way I knew I had to pay my dues and kind of work my way up the ladder a little bit.

Moses: How long were you with Warner?

Charles: Honestly I was only with them for only about 6 months in 2005 and then I went back to the school bus for a little while then I went to Warner Enterprises in 2006.

Moses: And how long were you with Warner?

Charles: I was with them for about 3 years.

Moses: So you left about 2009?

Charles: Yes, right around 2009 just before 2009 I think it was like in August.

Moses: And then who did you go with in 2009?

Charles: 2009 I actually ended up that's when I met my wife and she asked me to get a more local job I guess you didn't like she was trying to convince me to do something more than truck driving. She is [unclear 30:38] truck drivers are not looked highly upon in fact they are considered kind of like the filth of society like beyond the lower totem pole, they are not very highly respected and worth nothing.

So when she seeing me as a truck driver that's probably the one likely that's the first thing that run through her mind but not realizing here in America truck drivers are looked at differently here in America.

You have much higher respect and dignity than in Peru or any other country, but she convinces me to do something else instead. So 2009 I ended up leaving the trucking industry and it wasn't until 2013 before I would get back into truck driving.

And even then the only way I was able to do that was and I forgot to put in my bio but my brother called me and told me that there was driving jobs up in Ottawa so I ended up going up there, I mean my wife stayed behind only just in case it didn't work out or something because in California it's easy to leave California but it's extremely difficult to come back into California just because it's so expensive on every level.

So she stayed behind just in case and I went up Twin Falls to see about getting the driving job and I did got one with Ottawa Centre running [unclear] dumps so I did that for a couple months before I add a little personal issue with my brother because I was staying with him, and then we had a little scuffle and it kind of force me to go back to California. So then from there I ended up I had a friend that work for [unclear 33:02] transport and that's where I got in with those guys.

Moses: So you are driving for them right now?

Charles: No I drove for them for 1 year and then I am currently driving for FedEx right now. So I ended up with SRT I told my wife look I finally sat her down and told her you know what I am a truck driver this is what I do this is what I like this is my passion and you are going to either accept it or either not.

And we go back into it because we needed to get something going because might be part of those 4 to 5 years I was unemployed or underemployed, and so I told her you know what this is the only way out is for me to go to this company I will be [unclear 33:54] for a short time until I can get a local account and I had a friend that help me get in, and so I was able to get in only I had to do over the road for about a month or two and then I was able to be on a local Intermodal account that they had there in Southern California.

And I was doing that for the remainder of the year and half and was until about September or October of 2014 when FedEx called me and interviewed me and then I get hired on with FedEx.

Moses: So with FedEx what is it is it local work or?

Charles: It is local work it's local I mean most of the runs are you are back each day my run is the Tucson run which isn't not back every day it's considered as a layover I mean they do lay over runs.

But speaking of my run my ran is I go back and forth between Mira Loma and Tucson and when I come to Tucson I will stay in a hotel and do my resting here and then when I get done with that then I will go back like tonight I will go back to our yard in Tucson where I will receive my trailers that will take me back to Mira Loma.

Moses: Do you pull double or is it a van?

Charles: I pull doubles we do doubles only because Tucson here doesn't do the long vans or do the single trailers other than the city guys only because a lot of the freight that come to Tucson actually doesn't stay the only freight that stays is the Tucson that goes to the local customers everything else is basically just passing through essentially.

Moses: Oh it's more like a drop yard where it's dropped onto?

Charles: It is an acting drop yard I mean it still has the full service like docks and all the offices and the whole 9 yards as a terminal would have it's not very big but it has all the necessities as a yard would have, only they use it as mostly as a meet point.

So during the day we have drivers from Texas that would drive half of them will come this way towards this way and the other half will go back to their terminal, they operate during the day and we operate at night so during the day they are driving and then by night time there are arriving here with the fridge that we will take into California, and then from there we will be taking to specific hubs or whatever and sorted and from there we will continue the journey.

Moses: Okay of all the companies that you work for driving trucks which one has being most fulfilling for you?

Charles: The one that's most fulfilling actually I would have to say is FedEx only because they've been more interactive in terms of the process in terms of so far they have giving me the highest pay, so I've had the highest income with them I've had the highest ability to interaction in terms of being able to just kind of just do the job that I am I hired to do I and do not having to fuss with too much of the.

But essentially it's kind of more of the straight to the point type of work which is what I like to do is the kind of more straight to the point, and so to me this is been the more fulfilling of them all.

Moses: If you don't mind sharing roughly speaking how much does it pay a year?

Charles: Currently because I am a California driver which the specialty with that is they pay us California driver hourly, and we get pay on top end it's $35 an hour which equivalent to roughly a hundred grand a year.

Moses: Is FedEx part of union?

Charles: No they are not union that's the specialty of that they're not union which means that $35 an hour you keep the whole $35 an hour well, of course, run into taxes and everything but you don't have to worry about paying a portion of that to the union dues and stuff.

Moses: Now easy is it to get into FedEx

Charles: Not very hard really I mean typically they would like to have one year of recent experience the more experience the better, but actually even if you don't have experience you can still get in, a route you would take is come in as a dock worker which is part time but then they have what's called The Driver Development Course which is what it is, is FedEx will pay you %100 of all licenses and endorsements for someone to be able to learn how to drive and become a driver which they would become full-time.

And they would have an opportunity to drive as a city driver which is [unclear 40:54] or they can go as road driver's which they would do what I am doing just taking trailers or freight from one hub to another. So they are constantly having a lot of work they are constantly hiring drivers I mean I've been here within two and a half years and I've already got 11people under me.

Moses: I know it has different Ground and then there is Home, ground home and I forgot the third one they have 3 division do those divisions apply to truck drivers too?

Charles: Yes, ground typically runs off of what's call independent carriers independent contractor rather so essentially but they are truck drivers they do have truck driving Express which I believe is the third one you are thinking of which is the current company they do also have truck driver. Now Ground they kind of have two sides to the truck driving they have the full-size trucks that will pull double as well and they will run just like us there will [unclear 42:29].

And they typically have routes that they cover Express has trucks which they will do similar to us only the difference between us and them is they deal more with parcels which is like you are issued individual packages. But for the most part they are the same but we are mostly the concentration of all the freight stuff, and FedEx will intermingle between the different entities.

So for example if someone is shipping from Sacramento and wants to get their shipments to Orlando like say either in one day or 2 days well if we keep it on the ground it will take about 4 to5 days to get there so what we would do instead is we will contact with Express and then we will have it taken over to Express where are still putting it on an airplane and flying it to Orlando and then from there we will pick it back up and then take it to our yard to process and delivered it within the time that the customer want it.

Moses: So if I had say one-year experience driving trucks and I don't have any endorsement on my license. If I apply I will still come in as a dock worker?

Charles: No you can still come in as a driver but they prefer that you would have your endorsement because without your endorsement to pull doubles you would have to your doubles and triples endorsement and then of course with [unclear 44:26] you would have to have the [unclear] endorsement and then they made a new rule just within the last few years were even though you are not pulling tankers but when you are hauling [unclear 44:42] is what they call them it's like these big holes thanks that are filled with liquid and even though they want us to have tankers endorsement harling that stuff.

Moses: If I came in and have all my endorsement I have the tankers I have the [unclear] I have the doubles and triples would I still first start as a dock worker or would they put me in a position right away driving?

Charles: As long as you apply for the road or a city driver they will put you directly into driving.

Moses: Let's talk about some of the challenges you found in truck driving what are the challenges that you see within the industry?

Charles: The challenges really well actually the biggest challenge is preventing claims, claims could be either overages shortages or damages. And to kind of give you a description of each one overages is like when a customer wants maybe 2 pallets of a certain shipment and you show up with 3 pallets that's obviously more than what they ordered so that's considered an overage, and they are going to want you to take one of them back that's considered an overage and that requires claims.

Shortage is that if they order 3 pallets but you show up with 2 so your kind of short one. And then damages are [unclear 46:26] if a shipment is damaged and depending on the severity of damage is depends if they will take it but they are not going to be too happy about it.

Or being severe enough where basically the products is all exposed and damage and they just rejected it all together because they can't use it, and they are still not happy and then of course they are going to identify the shipper and the shipper definitely not going to be happy because those two customers just took a revenue lost because of that, so that one challenge that we're faces being able to ship this stuff with a minimal of claims as possible.

The other challenge is dealing with the weather I'm sure most people been watching the news lately with all the severe weather going on around the country from the West Coast having freezing rain and snow up in the northern California, Oregon areas and then heavy rain down in the Southern California, Arizona area to all the tornadoes and severe weathers going on in Florida and Back East and that because a huge challenge because my dad who lives in Portland area have been telling me for the past week or two the Colombian borders has been shut down because of the snow and ice which is leaving countless numbers of drivers stranded because they got their shipments but they can get through the gorge to get to where they to go so they are kind of stuck more likely they are parked in the truck stop waiting for it to open up but they are stuck.

So that becomes a challenge because now it's like now I've got customer freight and I can't deliver it so the customer can get it and a lot of over-the-road drivers are paid by the miles which means the only way they are getting paid is when they are driving you know moving if they are not moving they are not getting paid so that becomes another challenge for them because now what are they going to do for sustaining themselves for that long hopefully they got enough revenue and savings to kind of go off of and that's just a couple of the many challenges we face each and every day throughout the year.

Moses: And talking to drivers I realize one of the challenges that we have in the industry is planning for our future financial you hear people complaining about the kind of money they make and for the most part you will hear drivers be in the industry for years and yet do not have a way of making sure they future financially is planned for what things are you doing to plan for your future financially like maybe retirement or maybe stuff like that?

Charles: Well for me the things that I am planning on is actually now what I am doing is not because any of these companies are bad I mean they are all running their companies in accordance to the economy and they can only regulations and [unclear 50:26] and all that stuff, now the fact that people are complaining that they are not making enough [unclear] to me it's simple it's because they are not being proactive about it they are not proactive about finding the solution they are stuck on the problem and they are not moving to okay we got a problem here I'm not making this enough I don't feel like I am going to make enough to be able to retire comfortably, what's the solution for me personally my solution is simple

I'm working currently to create my own trucking company I am currently in the works of developing my own trucking company and getting the loan to getting my truck and my trailer and get out there and start moving loads. And to create myself some revenue on my own and then it will do two things for me one it will help secure me a much more secure retirement but the other thing it will do is it can potentially give strong financial stability to my children I can hand it down if I can grow enough then I can hand it down to them and they are financially secured and they've got a good strong future for themselves and I can still retire at an early age and not be dependent upon the retirement age which I believe for Social Security it's 70 and then for FedEx won't give you retirement benefits unless you retire at

And to create myself some revenue on my own and then it will do two things for me one it will help secure me a much more secure retirement but the other thing it will do is it can potentially give strong financial stability to my children I can hand it down if I can grow enough then I can hand it down to them and they are financially secured and they've got a good strong future for themselves and I can still retire at an early age and not be dependent upon the retirement age which I believe for Social Security it's 70 and then for FedEx won't give you retirement benefits unless you retire at

And to create myself some revenue on my own and then it will do two things for me one it will help secure me a much more secure retirement but the other thing it will do is it can potentially give strong financial stability to my children I can hand it down if I can grow enough then I can hand it down to them and they are financially secured and they've got a good strong future for themselves and I can still retire at an early age and not be dependent upon the retirement age which I believe for Social Security it's 70 and then for FedEx won't give you retirement benefits unless you retire at sixty seven.

To me that's too long that's too old for me to be able to just retire and enjoy my life. For me I am looking I would say the right time to retire would be about 50 or 55 because then I can have a good fair amount of time to enjoy my life go do what I want to do see the country see the world see whatever before I have to worry about going through the whole getting old and everything is shutting down and the whole 9 yards on that. And then on top of that I'm securing a financial future for my children and possibly their children so this can be something that can be secure future for who knows how many generations so to me the key of having

And then on top of that I'm securing a financial future for my children and possibly their children so this can be something that can be secure future for who knows how many generations so to me the key of having securing a fair amount of wealth for retirement even just as a current thing being proactive look for a solution don't just sit there and whining and crying about the problem.

To kind of tell you a story a little bit I went to visit Peru and on the way back I knew that I had to pay an airport fee but it was higher than I expected and then I didn't have enough I was 20 solos short and they wouldn't let me through unless had the 90 solos even if it meant missing my flight, fortunately I have $7 layover to really kind of deal with this. Now of course I was kind of stuck on my problem wasn't really able to get a solution and so I was getting frustrated I was getting stuck on the problem finally one of the security guards came up to me and told me look you are complaining you are whining you are crying all what you are doing right now is not going to help you it's not going to give you the solution here is a solution for you and this is Peru, Peru is totally different from the United States where in Peru you can just right of the street and say you know what I need to sell something because I need money and so when he told me that I realize you know what he is right.

Now of course I was kind of stuck on my problem wasn't really able to get a solution and so I was getting frustrated I was getting stuck on the problem finally one of the security guards came up to me and told me look you are complaining you are whining you are crying all what you are doing right now is not going to help you it's not going to give you the solution here is a solution for you and this is Peru, Peru is totally different from the United States where in Peru you can just right of the street and say you know what I need to sell something because I need money and so when he told me that I realize you know what he is right.

So I went right outside the front doors because the front doors were right there so I went right outside the front door as soon as I open my carry-on bag I had like 3 guys come surrounded me seeing what I have. And I was like okay and they are like what you got I was like well I've got a camera and I got a pair of shoes. Now the camera yes it was a $300 camera but do I care about making money off of it no I didn't what I care about was getting the 20 solo so I can get home because as far as I am concerned camera is replaceable but getting home that's a little bit of a long walk so I sold my pair of shoes and my cameras for 20 solos for exactly what I needed so I can get through and as a result I was able to find a solution and because I got the solution I was able to move forward.

Now the camera yes it was a $300 camera but do I care about making money off of it no I didn't what I care about was getting the 20 solo so I can get home because as far as I am concerned camera is replaceable but getting home that's a little bit of a long walk so I sold my pair of shoes and my cameras for 20 solos for exactly what I needed so I can get through and as a result I was able to find a solution and because I got the solution I was able to move forward.

And so to me when people are stuck on their financial problem of whether the retirement or whether the case may be you know what I got a message for them sitting there blowing on it crying on it lying on it is not going to give you your solution, it's not going to make money just magically walks into your pocket and make you [unclear 56:44].

What you got to do is get up off the couch and get on either on the internet or get in your car and go somewhere and go find yourself a solution go find a solution go talk to a financial advisor go talk to somebody who knows who can help you come up with a solution as to how to increase your security for retirement or security for current financial stability you know maybe you sell stuff maybe you get a side job or maybe you are selling cars or something there are solutions out there the thing is, is getting up off your touch and go out there and find it.

What you got to do is get up off the couch and get on either on the internet or get in your car and go somewhere and go find yourself a solution go find a solution go talk to a financial advisor go talk to somebody who knows who can help you come up with a solution as to how to increase your security for retirement or security for current financial stability you know maybe you sell stuff maybe you get a side job or maybe you are selling cars or something there are solutions out there the thing is, is getting up off your touch and go out there and find it.

Moses: Yes, do something about it.

Charles: Yes, exactly if there is problem get up and do something about it.

Moses: So Charles do you see yourself your future or your goal within the industry to start your trucking company, do you have kind of a time frame that you think you are going to be getting this off?

Charles: I am looking at hopefully within the next 6 months I wouldn't expect earlier than 6 months just because some of the items I still got to get my business licenses and permits [unclear 58:15] numbers and all that stuff and a lot of that stuff takes at least 30 days to complete the process so I am looking probably no earlier than 6 months for launch time I am probably looking at about June July as far as the official launch to actually have my truck have all my permits insurance and down the line where I can just connect the truck with the trailer and start running loads.

Moses: That's awesome well I will really love to get back to you probably be maybe towards the end of the year to check on you so that you can tell us some of the things you are learning as you start the company maybe others can learn from you if they have the same goal because that is really inspiring and that is something that needs to be done and that's what really it is about sharing with one another picking up ideas learning one another.

So in closing I know we have come it is amazing how time flies, what advice would you give to people that want to come into the industry they are looking at this industry and they are wondering if it's the right fit for them what advice would you give to those people?

Charles: My advice is first of all don't worry about the income worry about getting the experience start with a company such as Sierra England Werner Enterprises etc. One that is already well-established the income may not necessary be all that great at the start but you can't expect to be top pay at the start either, so my advice for them get into that get your experience if you like the idea of being owner operator or independent carrier give yourself 3 years first give yourself at least 3 years and then you learn how to drive the truck first then start doing your research about what it takes to even run a truck because running truck is not the same as a company driver you are assuming responsibilities you are assuming all authorities so you pay all the taxes you pay all the maintenance the fuel all the tires all the expenses that come with it and you are also this salesperson because if you don't sell your service nobody is going to come walking to your door say I need your [unclear 1:01:18].

They are expecting you to come to them and sell them your service and as to why you are the better carrier to run the service and try to be competitive. But ultimately get the experience first talk to the other owner operator are already in the industry talk to them what they experience what kind of stuff they are dealing with if they are willing to share some of at least generic income information that's always able to because that will give you an idea of what you are looking at as far as expensive you know typical fuel cost typical maintenance cost typical cost of replacing tires when it's time it just gives you an idea to do that.

For me honestly I didn't just start doing this like yesterday I officially started it last week but I have been in plans and stages ever since I started I will go up to owner operators and talk to them asking them question you know what kind of cost are you looking at don't really ask if you don't mind me ask how much do you spend on fuel a week and just kind of asking them question them questions, what would you recommend what does it take to be an owner operator what does it require and respectively if they are willing to share what their expenses are versus their revenue if they are willing to share that even if it's on a generic number that's okay it gives you an idea of what you are getting yourself into when you start this up don't just jump into it and thinking you are going to do it because you are going to fail %100 guarantee.

So I have been researching this stuff for at least 3 to 5 years before I actually officially acting on it, and so if you look at all these established companies they did the same thing they didn't act on it they did their homework and research before they did it and realize there's a need, guess what now I did all the research I know what I am getting myself into and now I am going to take that risk and because.

And because they take the time to do all that all the nitty-gritty stuff that nobody likes to do they are well-established they've been in business for several decades so that's my advice for people looking to get into the industry is get in get your experience and then from there you can decide whether you want to stay in the company forever or decide to get your own truck.

Moses: Any tools or resources that you use on daily basis that you would love to recommend to others?

Charles: As far as the trucking industry there is a lot of information I am trying to think a lot of the sites that I go to I mean typically the American truckers Association typical has a lot of information it gives a lot of information as far as the current industry what kinds of rules and regulations are being presented and promoted and even just general information about the industry itself even considering talking about how much volume has being what if it's up what if it's done what if it's just kind of steadfast that's, and that's one good resource there is I am trying to think I mean there is several resources I mean I mean typically you can probably Google Trucking industry it might pop up several resources that you can look at.

Moses: For the resources such as they don't necessarily have to be just trucking it may be something that helps you even in life generally that you think others could benefit from?

Charles: Yes, definitely I mean anymore Google has just about everything on there now so I mean typically you just type in what you are looking even if it's just a general thing you just type it in and it will pop up a lot of resources that it finds seems to be the closest fit for what you are looking for and then from there you just sort it out. And also another good resource in OODIA I think it's another good resource.

Moses: That's for the owner operators?

Charles: Yes, that's for the owner operators so that can be anybody looking to be an owner operator they can go there for a lot of resources a good resource as far as part of figuring out is there something that is right for me, is it something that I can do or is something that maybe I will just stick as a company driver and just live it out as a company driver you know it's a good resource. Talking to other owner operator is one of the best resources really because you are getting into the personal experiences of the different ones.

Moses: Alright Charles thank you thank you so much for doing this I really appreciate it and we sure will check on you towards the end of the year and see if we can have you back to share with us your experience on starting that company, I am sure most of our listeners are getting a lot from this podcast I really appreciate you. And say hi to the girls and the boys your little ones and we will check on you again probably towards the end of the year.

Charles: Alright thank you very much and thank you for having me.

Moses: Thank you bye, bye.

Charles: Alright bye.

The Driver Success Podcast Interview With Jim Davis AKA Trucker Jim on YouTube



Moses: Alright thank you everyone this is Moses here diver success, and I am really excited today to be having Jim Mr. Davis is on the line with us and his story he is going to tell it, he is my very first guest that I have on the line so Jim I thank you so, so much for doing this. Actually, I had a guess that I was supposed to interview before you but what happened is that he got an emergency and we had to reschedule that interview so you are going to be the very first, you are the very first guest we have.

Jim: Just not your first choice but it still an honor Moses.

Moses: You are, actually what I did is I sent out emails and depending on how schedules were working out, so what happens that his schedule workout he was going to be the first and then you the second but now you are the first. And I am sure this is not going to be the very last one I'm sure we will have you back again as we get to know each other.

But the way I got to know Jim is through YouTube I saw your videos on YouTube and I thought they were interesting I reached out to you and I just wanted to get to know you and have you share your story. And so we haven't really gotten to know each other so as I get to know you we as the community are going to get to know you.

So let's start from there just tell us about yourself without talking about Trucking we just want to know you on a personal level, just share with us whatever you want us to know whether you start with your parents your childhood it's all up to you.

Jim: Yes, well I grew up in upstate South Carolina not exactly from a small a small town because I lived out in the country but I went to school in a small town that it didn't even have a red light it was so small. But I always had the adventurous type spirit grew up doing you know some hunting and fishing with my father, a lot of camping out.

Grandparents had a farm they had retired about the time I was starting school so my so my summer are always spent with them, and I will tell you they put me to work out in the big garden that they had. But after graduating high school it didn't take very long that I found myself in sales. I think my first sales job I ever had I was going door to door business to business selling $5 calculators, $7.50 home remedy books and a little bundle of children's books that was about a dolphin family.

And I tell you I was hooked from there making cash every day and not staying in one spot and out meeting people I was hooked from day one. And after that I went into well I work my way up through that company eventually into the advertising division where we sell keypads door to door business to business which was basically a sheet of paper that we sold for $20.

And I had a lot of success with that Moses I ended up working my way into management having my own location and it went well for a couple years until I decided to go up to Philadelphia to open a new office, and well my country boy charmed didn't really work as well in Philly as it did. Into Carolina so the business went under within a few months of that so I came back to the Carolinas sold cars for a while and then after I met my wife I never thought as a kid I would ever be an insurance agent but Lord knows that's what I went into, I guess I thought it would be good security in that and health insurance benefits and retirement and all of those things.

And since I had a woman that was actually crazy enough to marry me and I spent 8 years as an insurance agent, three different companies all together each one was a step up to what I felt was a more prestigious company anyway. And well about 2 years ago I decided I didn't want to do that anymore I was tired of spending my Saturdays making phone calls setting up my appointments and just all the struggles and headaches that go with having a commission career and knocking on doors and setting appointments with people and my marriage was on I guess on its way to its current state and I decided to become a truck driver which is something I've always had an interest in.

Moses: When you left high school you went into sales right?

Jim: Not immediately after but within a couple of years I spend a little time in the Marine Corps.

Moses: How long were you there?

Jim: In the Marine Corps I was only in about 10 months Moses that whole story is a story for another day.

Moses: I got you so how long have you been in sales?

Jim: I guess 20 years which I said but my real first sales job I ever had was with my grandparents we would take her produce to the farmer's market 2 sometimes 3 days a week, and I would either go with my grandmother or my uncle to sell the produce and that was my favourite part, you know the ploughing and the picking and the watering, you know you got to do what you got to do but that really wasn't the part I enjoyed most, at the farmers market is what I enjoy the most I always joke say that was my first job.

Moses: During all those 20 years where they all commission based.

Jim: Yes.

Moses: Everything that you did was commissioned based, what was the best you would say you made in a year as somebody who has only paid commission basis?

Jim: Well when I was 24 years old and the advertising division of the first sales company I work with I made $84,000 which sounds like a big number but that was the gross, but I had some expenses that were involved with it I had upwards of 30 independent contractors that worked out of my office that went out and sold say a certificate for $20 they made $11 off each one I made $6 and then $5 went to our home office to took care of the printing and everything with getting our clients that we had which would be golf courses, automotive centre Papa John's Pizza was a major campaign that we had.

But out of my $6 I had an office and I needed to pay rent I only had a secretary that answer the phone and computers that came out of that. I was probably a little more motivated than maybe some other managers and I like having motivated people around me so I was pretty prone to always having bonuses up for grabs for the guys and the girls that work out of the office that came out of my money as well.

As far as put in the pocket after the expenses I am not sure what it was. But in the insurance type thing I think my first year was 38 and I work my way up to a couple years over 50 which was more than some of my peers but I never really felt I reach the level of greatness and then it was an amount that was worth all the time the energy and part of my soul that I put in to get these numbers.

Moses: When did you meet your wife?

Jim: October 11th of 2007 right outside of Boone North Carolina.

Moses: You've been with her for what 8 years?

Jim: Ever since that day but I guess Moses I don't know if this is the most inspiring subject we could talk about on a podcast, but we are planning to get divorced before the year is over with and we had really separated prior to me going to truck driving school with the type of relationship and this kind of lady as she is I don't know if I was ever been able to make the decision or being allowed to make the decision to get my CDL and OPR like I did like I did when we were together, together that really kind of opened up the door for me to explore this new side of life for myself.

Moses: Do you have any children?

Jim: I've got a 22-year-old son that was from a previous relationship and she and I had [unclear 9:33] started out as two children and then a few months later a newborn that was, like distant cousin of her that was just kind of in a bad place you know we eventually adopted.

Moses: You know what I am surprised with is when I look at your videos you look young for me to hear that you have a 22-year-old child.

Jim: Yes, I guess I kind of started early on that I was 19 years old when he was born.

Moses: Are you in contact with him?


Moses: What does he do?

Jim: He is a musician he has big aspirations of getting in the right band I think he is finally with a group of guys now that they are going to be playing regularly but he is pretty musically talented, guitar is his main thing but he can play bass he can play keyboards he can play drums. He likes to sing just his style of music is well it's a little different than mine he is a heavy metal his musical preference.

Moses: Does he get that music Gene from the father or the mother?

Jim: I don't think he gets it from me.

Moses: Is your wife like a singer or is she interested in music?

Jim: Those are two different women his mother and my wife but no not so much. Now I've always had an ear for music and I was a pretty good singer but you know I was in a course for a while but I was pretty addicted to the karaoke there for a while the performance side was probably what I was the best at. Which he was he was a part of that with me we used to have a karaoke setup in my mom's garage years ago. And I bought him a guitar when he was 6 years old, and he just kind of played around with it. We got him lessons when he was I think 12 and he hadn't put it down since then.

Moses: Usually when I think of truck drivers I think of us as falling in one or two groups, they are those truck drivers who since they were a child they had a dream of becoming truck drivers one day, maybe because they know somebody who was a truck driver maybe parents somehow somewhere they have been interested in becoming truck drivers. And then there are other truck drivers who just kind of stumbled upon truck driving because circumstances, which group would you fall into?

Jim: I would probably fall more into the second one I didn't really have relatives that I could think of that were truck driver that were mentors or anything of mine growing up, my father drove trucks briefly but I was too young to remember it. What attracted me to truck driving well I will tell you what really started the ball turning Moses I was still an insurance agent I'd left my home in New Bern North Carolina and came back to the area that I grew up in.

And I had a friend of mine that was an Allstate agent that own an agency that you know we chatted occasionally on Facebook and things and he was always after me to come do the life insurance for his business because I had a lot of success selling life insurance which isn't an extremely common thing that occurs especially to somebody that likes it and enjoy it. So when I was coming back here I called him up and I started working out of his office.

And one of their clients that had their car insurance and home insurance with Allstate I've call of the list and he was a truck driver, he is a good friend of mine I talk to him probably three times a week still to this day. And I have to go through a lot of questions with a person doing something like a life insurance policy and income is one of those. And you know he was making upwards of sixty thousand dollars and he said like he just enjoyed it.

And you know he is an owner and operator and he just drives 470 miles the same route everything single day and if he wants to not work a day or two I mean he does. He has a lot of freedom with his time schedule and everything like that which was attractive to me so that really kind of started the ball of rolling.

I really wanted to have an income of at least fifty thousand dollars all of us would like to have that six figures income, but I wasn't really interested in anything where I couldn't make a $1,000 a week, and trucking seems to be one of those things where I can make $1,000 a week and I don't have a boss standing over me every day and being able to see the country different state that was always kind of appealing as well.

And then I always had this crazy little idea in the back of my mind that I could start making videos YouTube videos to start kind of developing a cinematic style of my own which I guess that's how you and I kind of came together with my trucking Journey videos, but a combination of all of those things led me where I am at now.

Moses: At what point did you decide I know you say you look at this client income and it looks like he was enjoying what he was doing, so for you what really got you to that point where you decided and say you know this is it I am going into trucking?

Jim: Well I realized that I didn't want to continue to sell insurance out of that Allstate office because I was pretty much going broke in the situation and my loved had left the building for selling life insurance you know a lot of years prior to that. And in my previous company that I was with New York Live, and then I was with a company called Western and Southern prior to that.

I don't know what it is but January's were very brutal to me which I would do really well during the year but it seems like as soon as Thanksgiving would roll around I couldn't get anybody that would want to sit down and talk to, you know they would be like wait until after Christmas. So much income took a nosedive after Thanksgiving which when you are married with kids and a wife that likes to buy everybody presents that's not the time itty bitty little paycheck they just don't seem to understand.

And for two years in a row not only would I have to go through with that but with insurance and commissioned and things Moses, the way it works say if you decide you want to take out a life insurance policy and it's going to be $100 a month for say like a $250,000 policy or something I am just kind of throwing numbers out there. Well, that's $1,200 of annualized premium you are only going to have to write a check for one month of premium but what the company is going to do they are going to go ahead and advanced me a year's worth of commission on so that.

So you write a check for 100 books and you calculated it out that's $1,200 of annualized premium if I am on a %50 commission for the first year I make $600 off of that, that will be on my next paycheck. But say something happens in your life a month two months later and you decide you were going to cancel that policy, or there's not enough money to cover the draft in the three and the policy ends of lapsing, well I am charged back that commission that I was paying.

And I had one January where I had $8,000 worth of charge back the year of with so I started 8 grand in the hole, and the next year it was 5000 so same kind of scenario so I started $5,000 in the hole and the only thing you can do is write yourself out of it. And after that happen two years back to back I am like there's got to be something better than this.

You know you work real hard to make your money and then things happen that is beyond your control you know crisis that occur in other people's Lives not just your own but causes one in yours.

Moses: Yes, now let me ask you about if somebody was the keep that policy for more than a year, do you still get paid for the rest of the time they set that policy?

Jim: Yes, you do I mean if you are still with the same company that you are in when you wrote that policy that's what's call renewals.

Moses: But when you leave the company they don't pay you?

Jim: No they don't pay you jack, no I still probably get $100 a month or so of income that deposit into my well my wife bank account not into mine, that's commission that was called as earned instead of getting an advance owner years’ commission certain companies that I would write with did it as earned so as a person pays you get a little bit of commission. And like my Medicare supplement and the long-term care policies and like guaranteed issue life insurance policies I am actually still getting paid on those to this day, I mean it's not a tremendous amount but it's probably $100 or so on an average month that I get.

Moses: Okay you make your transition trucking. Which school did you go to?

Jim: I went to Truck Driving Institute TDI which they've got a few locations I think the main one is in Murfreesboro Tennessee. But I went to the one that was in Richburg South Carolina which is just a little south of Charlotte right off 77.

Moses: Did you go through a company where they pay for your teaching or yourself sponsored yourself?

Jim: Great question Moses and for anybody that's listening to this if you are in a similar situation I don't know if the law was changed now, but there is a program called WIA I think it's called the Workforce Investment Act that doesn't actually match up to those acronyms.

Moses: Say that again what?

Jim: But they go by it's your income and dependents and things like that but I've been fostering 3 children my wife and myself so we were a family of 5. And they went by your last 6 months’ worth of income which my previous six months’ worth of income at the time was a lot lower than it.

Say if they did last year tax return type of thing and I qualify for the program so I got my truck driving school paid for and I didn't have to pay it back. But they like send people to get their forklift licenses or like an LPN school I mean there are several things to some this but truck drivers and getting your CDL was one of those.

Which I can't remember exactly how I heard about that but I went and inquire about it and I filled out the application and I had to take a couple of test for what's call like your work keys, and grades like you're reading and mathematical and a couple of different comprehension type skills. There was a little bit of work ahead to go through it but because of that I got my truck driving school completely paid for, and the one I chose was only 15 days long.

Moses: Do you know if that's in all States or specifically for where you live you say it's South Carolina or not?

Jim: Yes, South Carolina.

Moses: Do you know if it's everywhere?

Jim: I think it is men I think it is I think it's a federal program, now this was back in 2014 and since then what do they call it a job site Workforce, South Carolina works is what it's called here there is not as many we always call them the unemployment office before going up which it didn't technically correct I think it's Employment Security Commissions but it doesn't seem like there is as many of those as they used to be, but I am sure you can do all that online.

Moses: Yes, I will look through it and see and if it's available for those of you listening you check on the show notes of this episode and I will try to find that information for you, maybe that's something that could be of interest for some of the people listening right now. When you got out of school how did you decide which company to work for?

Jim: Well you know we had recruiters coming by and I can't really tell you exactly why I chose US Xpress over the others maybe the location wasn't too far and it's somewhere I can drive to instead of getting on a Greyhound bus are fine, but I started with US Xpress and I started my career with US Xpress did about a month with a trainer I still talk to him periodically I call him trainer Bill. And then I team drove from February of 2015 to about January 2016 I did all team driving.

Moses: With Bill?

Jim: No.

Moses: Okay I know that there's a story I think I saw one of your videos where you tell friend a story about I think it was during training where you went and picked up a loaded trailer thinking it's empty.

Jim: Yes, right after I got out of training I was teaming up with a guy that's much younger than me named Malik. And I started the first shift and they send us up to the big Nissan Factory near Nashville I forgot the name of the exact town but it's a huge place. And they showed me where the trailer yard was and I was thinking all those trailers were and I hooked up to one and I check the tires were good all the lights were on the brakes were okay.

So I rode on and we drop that over FedEx and picked up a FedEx load and we were taking it up to Connecticut, and I got a call the next morning by my fleet manager and she asked me if I pre-trip that trailer, and I thought yes I certainly did pre-trip that trailer you know I listed the things I did as far as checking the tires and the lights and everything and she asked me well did you look inside, and I thought for a second and I'm like you know I don't remember doing that no I don't think I did, and she said I know you didn't because you stole a trailer full of tires but I think it was maybe colonial tire. Some type of tire, but I took a loaded trailer of tires from Nissan and drop them on FedEx yard.

Moses: It was so funny when I saw that video I could kind of relate.

Jim: Well you know guards are supposed to check and open up the doors you do it most of the places but you know it was cold it was late at night I mean it was only after midnight and they just waved me on by so I went on by, but I am sure it has a seal on it which Moses we don't have enough time for me to go over all the mistakes I've made at one time or another since I've become a truck driver.

And I don't know if everybody made these same stupid mistakes that I've made or not but from all of them I learn from them, like I'll never steal another trailer thinking it's empty ever again because first thing I look and see if there is a seal on it and then I open it up look inside but that is ingrained in me now from that first experience when I stole that loaded trailer of tires.

Moses: So you were with US Xpress for 6 months?

Jim: No I was there longer than that I thought I was going to become a trainer right after January of 2016 when I had been with them a year my partner at the time which let's see first was Malik and then I forgot this other guy's name we were only together for 4 days, and then Jason Masa for 50 days and then I had a guy named Steve for about 30 days because he was getting ready to become a trainer he just had like a 30-day waiting because his valves were not quite right he didn't do pre-trip and post-trip the amount of time so they made him wait so teamed for a month.

And then I team with another younger guy from August to January name Mark, and I thought I was going to be training right after that but since as we had split they’d inform me I was going to have to wait 6 months before I could because I got a warning I will tell you I've crazy things happen to me Moses. But I was in Pennsylvania maybe an hour into the shift and you know a police car pulled up beside me with the lights on, and he is pulling me over and I am like what in the world is this about I know I wasn't speeding I was on the interstate.

Well he informed me that I had wobbled in my lane and I crossed the line which you know how like when you hit the rumble strips on the right-hand side, which I don't know if I have ever had a shift in my entire life Moses where I hadn't done that at least once. But he was behind me when that happened and he pulled me over to make sure I wasn't sleeping and he was asking me questions and I was answering him I was extremely alert.

He did a level 3 inspection check my logs and things with the trailer and all my paperwork and everything and came back and said well I got good news and bad news, the good news is I am not going to write you a ticket and I was like yes that is good news, and he say well bad news I have to put something on here for the reason that I pulled you over and he put in proper lane change for a warning on there not writing a ticket for it and I didn't know then what I know now.

And I was like alright you put whatever you want to on there you know if it's a warning no big deal so I thought most people listen to this and yourself know that man warnings they are just as bad if not worse than a ticket because there isn't no changing them the warning and cures CSA point to you and the company that you drive for.

And improper lane changes that's a bad one. That's like running people off the road and like damaging property it should have been something else you wrote me that far besides improper lane changing. And I disputed through that accuse I got the drivers legal plan to try to do it but because it was a warning, Pennsylvania Police Department saying why are you tripping men this is a warning you don't even get no ticket for it, because I don't think they understand how they can hurt us with their little ticket book pad or warning pad or whatever you call it you know the inspections that they do us.

But I had to wait 6 months to become a training because of that and be clean during those 6 months so I started training in like May of 2016. And I will tell you another crazy thing Moses I got a letter from my company at the time informing me that I was on a 36 months’ probation because of that warning from improper lane change. Improper lane changes it's right up there with I don't know leaving the scene of an accident, like using your cell phone in your hand texting driving and stuff there was like 4 or 5 things on the sheets that I'd got and you know improper lane change it was like erotic for improper lane changes [unclear 29:48] with a check light but I got put on a probation with that company for 36 months because of it.

Moses: That's not US Xpress right?

Jim: Yes, that's what I am talking about.

Moses: For US Xpress I thought you said they gave 6 months for you became a trainer and then you became a trainer?

Jim: I did these are two separate things I had to wait 6 months to become a trainer because of that and then, later on, I receive a letter in the mail because of that same thing I was on a 36-month probation. It gets worse Moses training I really like it I did I like it a lot and my income was fantastic period, I'd have weeks where I bringing home 2 grand and I really got used to bringing home 1500, 1600 bucks as a trainer it was pretty awesome.

And it was making good content on my YouTube channel as well because I could get good road footage I wasn't driving constantly I could get some footage while I was in the passenger seat too. But one day one morning coming through Montana on high-94 in the middle of nowhere I think I am at like near Columbus Montana I see a police car over on the side with its lights on I didn't see orange barrels I didn't see flashing signs or speed limit changes I saw a cop car over on this side right before a little small bridge, so I am thinking he's got somebody pulled over so I slow down a little bit I check my mirrors so I get over in the left lane and I go on by.

And then on the bridge, there is like two guys with orange vest they really don't look like they are bridge workers they have like surveying equipment one of them had like thing on the tripod or whatever surveying the land. And one of them was really close to the center of the road he wasn't even looking in my direction so I get off a little further over and I go and by.

And a few minutes later I see I am getting pulled over this cop informed me I was in a work zone and it was a 35 mile an hour speed limit on the stretch of the interstate he said it was a work zone and I was doing 50 miles an hour I got a ticket Moses for doing 50 in a 35 mile an hour work zone that's 15 miles an hour over the speed limit in a work zone I got fired over it.

Moses: Because you are on probation?

Jim: Yes, I was on probation, well they've got a one and done policy now for 15 an hour over the speed limit here you know it's just like driving and using your cell phone or whatever it's a one and done terminating policy. But you know how many times I've seen the 35 miles an hour speed limit on the interstate since that day.

Moses: How many times?

Jim: I don't see it yet Moses, I have been looking like I see like in work zones now with orange barrel flashing signs lane closed all these kinds of stuff workers everywhere equipment it would be like 55 miles an hour, or maybe 50 miles an hour but in this rural section of the interstate of Montana is 35 miles an hour.

And I said something to him about that and he said there was a sign back there, and I am thinking to myself a sign for a 30-mile reduction in speed limit for this little stretch with no bubbles no cones nothing like that, which I ended up getting it reduced of 9 over in their kind of words own stuff which I don't want to be completely thrown out but that's what it was.

Moses: Where are you training at the moment?

Jim: I am sorry. Ask me that again?

Moses: Did you have somebody you were training with you?

Jim: I did Azul he was a guy from South Africa originally that lived in Philadelphia. He was with me when that happen and then shortly after that I got routed to a terminal may be a week or so later and I told the company I am fighting this and I explain the situation but I don't know it's was an over a little week later they routed me to a terminal [unclear 34:06] to safety and I had to turn my truck in and pack my stuff up and move on, and they set him up with another trainer.

Moses: Let me ask you something you did team driving with him and you also did training with him, out of the two what made more money the training or team driving?

Jim: Training.

Moses: Training made more money?

Jim: Now I can speak all companies out there I only can talk about the ones that I've been with that I've got a paycheck from. But the way US Xpress did it team drivers made a lower per-mile rate compare to solo like I started out at $0.22 a mile, now after I've been driving like a year with them I think I was at $0.24 a mile. But it was off the total miles off the truck and we not mile or anything but whatever your paid miles, so you are making money when the other guy is driving and you are in the bunk.

I know some other companies that I talk to like Covenant for instance you know they say we pay you more about a mile but they split the miles in half so I guess it didn't isn't really a whole lot of difference it adds up about to same anyway. But when you are training you start out where they're doing most of the driving and you started working on your 14 hour call they get tired you need to push to finish the load or whatever then the trainer gets behind the wheel but you are not supposed to be sleeping while that other guy is driving starting out.

But after a couple of weeks into it then you switch to team status and trucks pretty much moving around the clock and trainer me anyway I was getting paid a solo rate which was like $0.38 a mile then but was it was weather he is driving or I am driving. The best week I ever had was 7321 miles for the week and I got paid $0.38 on every one of them, and 5000 was just a average a week that was kind of what I shot for each week to exceed 5000.

Moses: So they would pay every mile to you as that trainer?

Jim: Yes, but not of what the diameter says but you know how these companies do their ZIP code kind of miles whatever those miles are you get paid off of it.

Moses: So from US Xpress who did you joined and how easy was it?

Jim: Well I went to Maverick but I'll tell you I talk to a whole bunch of other companies but besides Maverick because Maverick it was taking forever for my background check to come back because they were ordering it from the county that don't do background checks so like it was never going to come ever so they were waiting on something that would never come, because you do a sled report in the state of South Carolina for background checks but until that was figured out and they say hey you guys need to do a sled report and quit waiting on this thing that isn't going to come. I talked to several other company’s men I was getting turned down left and right, when you get terminated.

Moses: Because of the ticket right?

Jim: Yes, the ticket 15 a mile an hour or over in work zone you know that was a problem with some of them but getting terminated from a company because of a safety issue that was even more of a big deal with more of them. Maverick which I called them and got them to run my stuff before I even clean my truck out I was considering going to them anyway.

Moses: why?

Jim: This crazy idea I wanted to do flatbed you know get paid more and they also get some exercise. Because it isn't uncommon for a fellow to get big in the belly and little in the arms being a truck driver especially if you are just eating truck stop pizza and burgers, fried chicken and that kind of stuff your main exercise you get is raising your landing gear you can get out of shape. And I mean I wasn't as bad as some but I had a weight gain and muscle loss during that especially team driving and keeping that truck rolling as much as you could.

And [unclear 38:18] to do something about that so flatbed was an interest of mine and I started out with Maverick which I can't say anything bad about them Moses there's a lot of good things about Maverick Transportation, I felt very respected and well treated from the word go and the moment I arrived there at their terminal doing the whole orientation, and you know with flatbed the securement training is like a whole other monster.

Moses: So how long was it from that time you left US Xpress to the time you get into Maverick?

Jim: About two and a half weeks but my story get crazier Moses I mean I chronical all of this on my YouTube channel. And this next part that happened with Maverick I was doing very well with Maverick you know as far as for gross it was over $1,000 every week with Maverick and I felt I was going to do nothing but get better as I get faster at securing and trapping and things because I don't know this stuff can kind of take you a while to do, but you get faster at it the more do.

But on my video Moses like I don't know it just kind of happened by accident on I think episode 66 my endings were very inconsistent prior to that I would be like don't text and drive or be safe out there you know have a good day you know I was doing all these different things [unclear 39:54]. But I had been safe out there and Keep On Trucking it came out of my mouth and soon as I did, I don't know it just stood out to me I was like be safe out there and Keep On Trucking.

Well since that episode that's how I end every video is be safe out there and Keep On Trucking. And I did video as Maverick which when I started with Maverick I started over, I had like a 122 episodes to the idea and I said okay I am starting cleaning with Maverick this is season 2 you know. And I did orientation video with Maverick and that was episode 1 of season 2 and I made it up to 9, and I did a video explaining what be safe out there and Keep On Trucking that was the name of the episode.

And the whole Keep On Trucking part a lot of that to me and why I say that it's about attitude and having what I call a Keep On Trucking type attitude and I talk about things are going to happen to us that get you down I mean it might not happen today, and you know tomorrow next week but at some point it is and how you react to that adversity is really what define you. There is this I don't know if I would call it a poem or a saying I'd kind of stumbled across back in my sales days but it's about attitude and it starts out the longer I live the more I realize the impact of attitude on life but at the end of it, it says I am convinced life is %10 of what happens to me and the 90% how I react to it so it is with you. We are in charge of our attitude.

And I was talking about that right and I got that video all done and I uploaded it to YouTube and that day I'd woke up in Connecticut got unloaded and I'd go on up to Massachusetts it was pouring down rain all day to a lumber yard and they put 46000 pounds of lumber on my flatbed and I get out in the rain and strap all of that down and I did, and I was heading to Maryland and I trip kind of like I believe as long as I don't hit traffic or things to slow me down I can make this.

I do my 10-hour break there at the yard and when I get up the next morning and I can get unloaded and then I can get something else. When I made it to Maryland 2 miles from this ship I had 15 minutes left on my14 hour clock and I was making a right-hand turn that I shouldn't have been making. I needed to cross that intersection and then make the next right hand turn, but I am looking at it on my [unclear 42:38] telling me two different things and I made a right-hand turn prematurely and I didn't realize it at the time but the edge of the road the shoulder where the pavement ended there was about a 1 foot drop.

And I was making that turn and my trailer tire I guess was riding that edge and these flatbed men it's hard to see your trailer in your mirrors compare dry van you know just has the lights on the side of the trailer that you can spot really easy especially when it's raining and your mirrors got all the little water bubbles on it or whatever and your window it's a little foggy and I am making my right hand turn but to make a long story short my trailer flips over Moses.

That trailer tire dropped off the edge and momentum just took it over and the trailer went completely over land flat and it's quite amazing that my truck didn't flip over it almost did. I made a video about it I was very reserved I almost did it but I figured I owed it to my viewers. The drive tires they were like 4 foot off the ground on the driver side I mean it almost carried the truck on over but I took the turn really wide and I guess the angle was just right to prevent that from happening. Wreckers and everything had to come out and hook up to the trailer and turn it back over and I was actually able to drive away I still delivered on time no freight came undone or anything.

Moses: Really that's interesting.

Jim: Yes, and I thought maybe that would save my job but it did not I got fired over that one too. So, Moses, I got fired in September for speeding in the work zone and then fired in November for flipping a trailer over.

Moses: So you were at Maverick for just two months?

Jim: Yes, I started orientation October the 2nd and the trailer accident happened November 17th I only actually been out on my maybe two and a half weeks when that happen.

Moses: So from Maverick where did you go next?

Jim: Well I didn't go anywhere for like a month and I applied to at least 30 companies. But none of this was on my driving record yet the speeding ticket it wasn't on my driving record and I got charged with negligent for the trailer which at first I didn't get charged with anything the cops said I can't really think of anything to charge you with because I see how the highway the shoulder drops off there and the cop that responded first said, men, I have been out here 3 times before you for the same thing happening.

The Wrecker Company that came now said we have been here about 6 times this is like our honey hole and they charge my Maverick $12,000 to get my trailer back over because they had two big really, really big wreckers came out but it was a female officer I guess they responding one as far as writing the ticket and doing the report and everything and at first she just give me an incident report and she said I can't really see anything in my book you know I won't write you a ticket for it in this circumstances and I'm like men thank you so much and I'm like okay maybe I can keep my job. And she comes up about 30 minutes later saying her supervisor said I have to write you a ticket for something he said I have to.

And she looked through her book and the one she picked was negligent which that isn't a good one to have either it's about up there with improper lane change, so about 2 days later I was turning my truck in. They route you at these terminals when they're fire Moses they will use some other reason that hey you are fired so go ahead and drive your truck here and turn it in they don't tell you your fire until their equipment is on their property. But it was a tough time Moses I thought my trucking career it's probably over I got turned down by like 30 different companies left and right, and there will be a couple of them where I thought I was in the clear but I wasn't.

And somehow someway GMP trucking that's who I am with now which they had an ads in the newspaper my favourite aunt send it home with my mom to give to me and I researched them they had being around 80 years they're kind of a medium sized company they got about 400 trucks just in the southeast is where they pick up and deliver and everything, they said they would give me a shot they were one of self-insured type company you know the insurance company that's why that's why it was making it so hard you know the insurance company is for the trucking company because if something happens and they are like wait a minute this driver he got a speeding ticket in a work zone, he flipped a trailer over.

And then maybe it hit some nurses in Georgia or something like that you know they're just opened up for a tremendous lawsuit and the insurance companies are general the ones who pay these lawsuits from my understanding or trying to handle things outside the court but that's what it's all about it's the insurance companies and the lawsuit. And driver that things have happen you know that's just exposing them to unnecessary risk I don't know how many thousands of people getting CDLs each week across the countries insurance but I'm sure it's a lot.

Moses: So it took you about 1 month from the time you left Maverick until when you got into this [unclear 48:22]?

Jim: It was the longest month in my life too Moses I started with them like a when I first hit the road was like the week before Christmas I did orientation that week prior to that so yes it was maybe a month and a few days.

Moses: If you have to come here US Xpress Maverick and the current company which one you say you like best of all 3?

Jim: Well that's hard to say because there is differences pros and cons from each of them I liked a lot about but it was hard work, and I was working on 14-hour clock like every day and like when you have to tarp load and it's dark it's I never got really good at that even if it was a sunny day I never got all that great of trapping by myself you know if you have somebody to help with it, it's a lot easier.

But with US Xpress and Maverick they were big enough that you know they had everything together as far as the technology of it like you know trans flow you know you do your empty micro you can go ahead and scan your bills right there while you are at the doc or the ship or [unclear 49:33] and you are done.

This company I'm with now GMP they don't quite get the trans flow apps you know I had to get the truck stop and trans flow that in or go to a terminal and scan it in which just seems foreign as hell to me Moses because I started my career with trans flow app and all the Departments but I'd have to say I think I probably like the one that I have now better because there is more consistency to it like I'm guaranteed $1,000 a week just working 5 days and I get a couple of days off.

And I don't really go out that far you know in Southeast Regional, so you know getting haven't been a problem so far because I am not like stuck up in the Northeast and they say they don't freight to get me home or out in California they don't have freight to get me home I have to deal with all of that and I am driving a manual transmission truck now which I started my career I just put the thing in drive Moses and head on to the steering wheel.

Moses: Did Maverick have automatics too?

Jim: Yes, there a whole fleet of them, them and US Xpress yes.

Moses: I didn't know that I know US Xpress have because I draw for them but I didn't know Maverick had automatics too. Since you've started your career do you know what your best month has been money wise how much is the best you've had?

Jim: Well I haven't had even a month with them yet.

Moses: No I mean since you started the career like with US Xpress I am guessing it's US Xpress during your training right?

Jim: It is it was when I was training I'd have to go through stuff to tell you exactly. But also I was getting extra pay for referral bonuses that were coming from my YouTube videos and you know US Xpress hires like everywhere almost from the country they got a very large hiring area and people would put me down as their referral source for US Xpress.

Moses: And they still give you that?

Jim: No they don't Maverick don't either once you are terminated they are obligated to pay you anything I mean I have no idea of the lingering effect of the video you know I didn't take them down they're still there and I got links to a whole lot of application for those company you know how many have mentioned me as a referral source since then I am not going to get paid on them it doesn’t no matter how many it is.

But when I was with US Xpress I broke their record I've had 15 while I was there and if you are an experienced driver it's a thousand buck’s student driver is 250 but I made like an extra $65,000 for last year from referrals. And it got to the point I would be getting them and I didn't even know who the heck it was coming from unless a person sends me an email or I get like some dialog going with them I mean I don't know about them in the process they are just watching videos and putting me down without contacting me so I would get a $1,000 extra on my paycheck or 250 on my pay check all the time there for a while and not even know who the person was, it's kind of cool probably about $8,000 or so was my best month.

Moses: Let me ask you where do you see yourself when it comes to trucking do you see yourself doing this for the rest of your life, do you think you are just doing it to get to somewhere else what do you think?

Jim: I'm still deciding that Moses at least for the rest of this year I am not really expecting make any kind of changes I am going to stay with the same company that I am now because also I am a little venerable you know because I got turned down from all these others which I've got my court case coming up that I've got an attorney helping me with later this month.

And you know if I can just get that negligence drop and get that preventable accident change to a non-preventable just because of the circumstances of that shoulder and you know if Gabriel would have been there or some kind of sign edge it wouldn't happen, So I think we got a good shot of getting that change and then I can go a lot of places.

And I kind of got it in the back of my mind of maybe one day buying a truck an owner operator and explore in those opportunities but you know I need to learn a little more the ins-and-outs of that before I make that type of commitment because I know a lot of people that didn't do well, most of those were like lease operators and things that you never happy to make their truck payment, that doesn't sound like a very good plan to me.

But you know it's something I am considering and then my videos that have made now they're not like feature film type quality and everything and I have aspirations of stepping up my equipment like I just make them on an iPhone Moses I film it with an iPhone and I edited it on an iPhone and I uploaded it on an iPhone all of that so I am planning to get a Mac computer to do my editing and things on and then I can use other sources as far as capturing the video I am going to get a better camera and I am going to get a drone too.

Moses: Now let me ask you other than the referrals payment you are getting from US Xpress and Maverick do you make any other income from YouTube?

Jim: I didn't at first and the reason is, is because I copyright, like when I started truck driving school and then the hotel room and I think most of us probably do this we are tearing up YouTube and we come across you know there is a lot of bloggers and a lot of videos that truck drivers make and you know the majority of them is hit record one long take of some guy sitting in a hotel room talking or sitting in his truck talking and that was it.

And when I started watching those I am like men I can make a better video than that and my first then or so they kind of suck too, but as I started doing it more I started adding music to it and a lot of road footage and I started really doing with the editing and going to truck stop and showing shippers and just showing interesting stuff but because I would use the music Moses that it would just be a song I download from iTunes and I put it at the beginning when I am doing my titles and all of that.

I would give up the monetization and it would go to the owner of the copyrighted materials. But as I did it and started experimenting with it I learned if I don't play the song for more than 30 seconds it falls under fair use and I could do that. So I started monetizing all my videos now and I've got like over $200 in an ad revenue you know it's a fraction of a penny per view but like I just won over 2000 subscribers earlier today.

Moses: Wow congratulation.

Thank you very much that was one of my goals for last year I want to have it done by January 1st but it didn't happen until January 15th but I guess that's still not too bad.

Moses: Yes, that's not too bad, any other passion other than Trucking?

Jim: Trucking video making money making is probably my top passions and also now going to be I don't know starting life over and you know going through this divorce which you know it's not going to be ugly we are not going to even get lawyers we are working on getting our agreement and everything and I am going to be financially obligated really taking care of her for the rest of this year as the house and the car and health insurance and other things with the kids and everything.

But she's finishing up her degree that she should be done with it by this time next year and the way she talks she probably make more money than me you know when she get started in a career after she has her degree, and then I guess I kind of figure out the next direction for my life as for as where I want to buy a house or buy a truck you know I've really just got this year planned out right now there is some uncertainty as far as beyond because I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with and we are going to have it together but it looks like that's not going to be the case.

Moses: Let me ask you I know I have seen some of your videos where it looks like you do a lot of reading which books have you read and have impacted you the most

Jim: Well lately the books I have been listening to them instead of reading them and they've actually have been Stephen King books but one little tip for you viewers, if you go down to your local library and joined if you hadn't already there, is an app that you can download from Android iPhone or whatever I think it's called over let me check it real quick to make sure I'm not telling any lie.

Overdrive is what it is called and it's like a virtual library and you can check out eBooks but they also have audio books and you can connect that through your radio and you can sit and listen to the music or scanning station or whatever. And there are all kinds there is management motivational self-help or suspense or horror or comedy whatever you are into. But I hadn't been reading like I use to Moses now back in sales days how was some bookworm men like Rick Pitino's book's Success is a Choice was one of favourite he's probably most known as a Kentucky basketball coach, he coached with the Celtics for a while but now he is at Louisville but this was a book that came out in the 90s I really liked it.

And there was a small little book that's usually found like in the Christians are inspirational section in bookstores call the greatest salesman in the world it was always favourite of mine it's a story about a boy that meets a girl used to quiet cleaning up camel poop and stuff like that and giving them hay that's what he does he is young poor kid. And he meets this girl and his ambition grows when he meets her because he wants to be able to provide for her, and he'd says he wants to be one of this is man for this guy in the land so he goes to him and pretty much bags for a position and it tells the story of that but is a pretty inspiring story.

But inside of the book called The Greatest Salesman in The World there is these 10 ancient Scrolls for success that are revealed and I did a video about one of them the scroll 3 I will persist until succeed and it's been pretty influential in my life and really help me through that tough time of that month to me getting 30 no’s from trucking companies until I've finally found yes that's where I am at. Now is persistent and the refusal to quit and get down and having that strong believe as long as I don't stop something good is going to happen which it eventually did.

Moses: Any must have tools for truckers that you would recommend?

Jim: Yes on my truck I've got a small little refrigerator I've got a microwave now I am a bit of a coffee snob Moses I've got a French press that I grind my own beans and I make coffee in the truck and I've got this electrical that I heat up my water but being as self-sufficient as you can on your truck having food that someone nutritious that you enjoy on your truck in ways to prepared I've got one of those lunch I call it a lunch box cooker I don't think that's a technical name but it looks like a lunch box. And you plug it in your 9 volt and it will heat up to like 350 degrees inside of it you know you can warm food up making like herring’s rice and cooking chicken and things like that it's pretty good for that you know it takes a little while younger than a microwave anyway.

Moses: Do you have an inverter?

Jim: Yes, I do I've always had an inverter on every truck I've ever had.

Moses: How Big?

Jim: These are like 1500 watts which sometimes you know you can't run your microwave like another kind of heater thing at the same time or click it off but at 1500 you know it do the job for the most part, you are not unlimited with your power usage but is good enough. And then US Xpress anyway you couldn't have anything larger than a 1500 in [unclear 1:02:44] so that's what I've always had since then. But was like GMP the company I'm with now the truck came with it, it came the inverter it came with the APU.

Like Maverick they're 2015 in hire come with a refrigerator with freezer in it which was pretty awesome, I've just got one I've got strapped down on my top bunk I have to climb up there when I want to get to it but versus if I didn't have all those things Moses every time I want to get something cold to drink I would have to stop at a truck stop, every time I want to have a meal I would have to purchase from a truck stop or you know stop at Walmart.

This way I'm not a slave to those truck stop and if I happen to have to shut down at a ship or my cart runs out or something that's alright men it isn't any big deal you know I got what I need I've got a TV in there with antenna, I couldn't pick up ESPN with it or anything with it but depending upon where I am at I could pick up channels and this is a pretty cool little tip too.

I used to have to have a media player but my new TV has a built-in media player and I just plug a hard drive into it that has a couple of hundred movies on it. So you know I've got entertainment there I can watch one of my 200 movies or watch something on TV. You know my food like last week I only purchased one meal I got a sandwich from Bo jangles one day which was like $7.50 this week I am even more stocked up on food.

And the same balance that is in my bank account right now I am expecting to be there Friday morning when I wake well actually Friday morning it would be some more money there because I have a deposit but my intention is not to spend one single dollar this week because I've got everything I need already on the truck.

Moses: If somebody wants to get in touch with you who wants to contact you what's the best way to get in touch with you?

Jim: Well a couple of ways you can do it through a comment on one of my videos if you just go to YouTube and search Truckin Journey, season one it was Jim and Boons Truckin Journey I used to have my dog with me I can't take my dog in my new company so I call myself Trucker Jim now Trucker Jim Truckin Journey subscribe and post a comment there or you can always hit me an email

Moses: Thank you so much Jim I will make sure for those of you that are listening and you want the information just head over to driver in the show notes you will have all the information and all the contacts to Jim, Jim thank you so much I really appreciate you, you have been our very first guest so you've made history here on Drivers Success.

Jim: Thanks a lot, Moses and I wish you much success on your driver podcast.

Moses: Thank you so much brother and we will stay in touch.

Jim: sounds good have a great night.

Comparing JB Hunt and Schneider National – Financialy.

I work for JB Hunt so I’m interested in knowing what is happening with the company.

Recently, JB Hunt has made some news in relation to its stock – good news I must add. But I came along this article that compares JB Hunt with Schneider National. These two trucking companies are kind of the two biggest competitors when it comes to moving freight via intermodal.

If you want to see how they compare financially, you can click the link below to go read the article.

Original source

Analyzing JB Hunt (JBHT) and Schneider National (SNDR)  The Lincolnian OnlineFull coverage

Current Straight Truck Driving Positions – Apply Before They Fill Up

class B driving jobs

Straight Truck Driving Jobs Currently Available


Here are some of the current straight truck driving positions that are available with JB Hunt (there are some more).
These positions fill out fast so I cant guarantee that you will find an open position. The good news is that positions keep opening up so don’t lose heart if the position you want is filled by the time you apply.


This is a dedicated position. Requires 3 months truck driving experience with an average yearly gross of $55,000
Offers a $5000 Transition Assistance Pay


This is a dedicated position with an average yearly gross of $70,000
Offers a $3000 Transition Assistance Pay


This is a dedicated position with an average yearly gross of $50,000


These are dedicated positions with an average yearly gross of $64,000


These are dedicated positions with an average yearly gross of $64,000



These are dedicated positions with an average yearly gross of $64,000


This is a dedicated position with an average yearly gross of $52,000


Keep in mind that there are a few more driving positons available. I have just listed few here.

Please use the form to send me your information so I can refer you. And if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to contact me.


5 Things You Need To Become A Truck Driver

What do you need to become a truck driver?


If you are looking into driving a truck as a career and are wondering what you need to become a truck driver, then you are in the right place. I’m going to share with you 5 basic things you need to consider if you are even going to be considered a candidate for the career.

Let me start off by saying that becoming a truck driver is not hard. There may be a few challenges some people have to overcome but, compared to other career choices, becoming a truck driver is easy.

Here are the 5 basic things you need to help you clear the first step of starting your trucking career.


1. Your Age

truck driver ageEven though you can become a truck driver before you are 21yrs old, you will find it very difficult to find a company that will hire you. If you find one, it will most likely be like farm work, oil field work etc and you will not be allowed to drive across state lines.

As of this writing, to become an interstate truck driver (meaning you drive across different states), you need to be at least 21 years old. There is a bill in Congress where they are talking about lowering that age requirement to 18 years. Maybe things will change in the future.


2. Your criminal record

As a truck driver, you will be moving thousands, sometimes millions worth of merchandise. Trucking companies want to know that they are hiring someone they can trust with that kind of freight.

Your criminal record is one of the ways to help them identify the kind of person they are hiring.

If you have a criminal record, it may be hard for you to become a truck driver but, it doesn’t mean they won’t consider you. Depending on the type of crime and how long ago the crime was committed, some trucking companies will give you a chance.

What you may need in this case are strong references and a good work history to help improve your chances of being considered.


3. Your driving record.

This one shouldn’t surprise you because trucking companies are in the business of moving freight and the autonomous trucks being talked about haven’t yet taken over the truck driver jobs.

Just because you can drive doesn’t mean you can get a trucking job. The trucking industry wants or should I even say needs safe drivers.

They want to move that freight safely and on time. That’s where truck drivers have to shine. When it comes to driving, we (truck drivers) are mostly judged by two factors.

1. Are we safe drivers?
2. Are we reliable drivers?

Too many accidents, speeding tickets, and moving violations make it hard for you to get a trucking job. This is because it tells the trucking companies that you are a reckless driver and you may be hard to insure you.

If you have an accident or a moving violation on your record, trucking companies will still hire you. But, that will depend on the company and how long the violation was.

So, make sure your driving record is good or isn’t too bad.


4. Your work history

Your work history helps to show the company what kind of person you are as an employee.

Do you keep jumping around from one company to another, or are you one that is stable? Having a good work history will help to separate you from the crowd and also speed up your application.

Also, keep in mind that most trucking companies don’t want to see a lapse in employment. If you do have a lapse, you will have to account for it.


5. Your Health

Trucking companies want to know that you are healthy enough to be driving a truck.

Believe it or not, there are many drivers that have failed to make it through orientation because of their health. the big issue that takes drivers out is high blood pressure.

Before being hired on with a trucking company, you will need to go through a medical and physical exam. And you will need to do that exam every 2 years or every year if you have a health issue that needs to be kept under control.


Why do you want to become a truck driver?


When I got into trucking I did not have a specific goal of what I wanted to achieve as a truck driver. I guess I just assumed that there was a way of “climbing the career ladder.”

I don’t want you to waste your life like I did. Time in trucking flies. I don’t want you to look back one morning and realize ten years have passed and you haven’t climbed any ladder.

If you don’t set a goal of what you want to accomplish in trucking. You may have nothing to show for the years you spend driving trucks.

So, if you choose to become a truck driver, think hard about what you want to make of your trucking career. Write it down and make a workable plan towards it.

If you chose to become a truck driver, this bonus step alone will put you in the 20% of truck drivers that have a great trucking career.

Until next time,

Stay Safe.